EntrePastors Interview with Les Hughes & Jon Sanders

Jun 16, 2022

Do you feel the pull between being an entrepreneur AND a pastor? Maybe that means you’re an EntrePastor! In today’s show, special guests Les Hughes and Jon Sanders share their EntrePastor journeys, and how they help pastors think, act, and thrive like prosperous entrepreneurs. 

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Welcome to the More Than a Pastor Show. I’m your host, Rich Avery. This is where we show you how to leverage your ministry know-how into sustainable income outside of the church, through a business or side hustle that’s right for you. So you can serve God and provide for your family, no matter what. 

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Entrepreneur + Pastor = EntrePastor

If you’re feeling the pull between being a pastor and an entrepreneur…you’re going to love today’s show. Because as I’ve said before, you don’t have to choose between the two!

Today, I’m excited about sharing an interview with Jon Sanders and Les Hughes. They are fellow pastors I meet through Dan Miller’s 48 Days Eagles Community. I’ve shared before how Dan Miller has impacted my life in big ways over the years, and how I’m a member of his Eagles Community. You can learn more about that at morethanapastor.com/eagles. 

I connected with Les Hughes and Jon Sanders through Dan Miller's 48 Days Eagles Community. I've mentioned before how Dan Miller has had a huge impact on my life. I've been a member of his private community for several years now.

When I heard that Les Hughes and Jon Sanders were creating the EntrePastors platform and hosting their first live event in October 2021 in Florida...and that Dan Miller was going to be one of the speakers at the event...I KNEW I had to be there.

I had the privilege of meeting up with Les and Jon for an awesome steak dinner the night before the event (pictured), and we made an instant connection. At the event, I was blessed to meet some other great pastors who are also entrepreneurs.

Les and Jon reached out to me a few weeks ago to set up an interview with me on their show, and I jumped at the chance to also interview them for my show!

Key topics we talked about on the show:

  1. Les and Jon's journey as pastors and entrepreneurs
  2. How "mindset" holds pastors back - because we feel we don't have permission to thrive financially
  3. Helping pastors understand their marketable skills - that they're more than a pastor - and have something to offer the world
  4. If there's ever been a time for pastors to create income outside the church, the time is now
  5. Benefits of bi-vocational/co-vocational ministry in light of rapidly changing church economics
  6. Time and financial freedom when pastors become prosperous entrepreneurs
  7. Lots more...

Learn more about the EntrePastors community at www.entrepastors.com/start.